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Was his testimony meant to go viral Granted, anything recorded or written risks public exposure. It the intent was not to go viral I'd be questioning the church and others how and why this got out. Jones' faith developed over time. At what point he came to believe his show was filth and no longer merely tawdry is unknown. If his testimonial was meant to be private, at least exclusive to his church, then I sway towards Jones. If he deliberately released his testimonial to the public then, yeah, big mistake.
Growing up in public, is becoming increasingly difficult. I have a good rep with you folks, but heck, none of you have even so much as seen me.As for whether he should have said what he did, probably not and he has issued a second statement. Other (older) religious actors have been in provocative roles and have not said something to undermine their bread and butter. Theresa Graves (\"Get Christie Love\") and Lisa Whelchel (\"The Facts of Life\") are two people that come to mind. Whelchel took the \"Levine\" route when a storyline came up that had her character lose her virginity. She objected and they rewrote, but this is something I found out AFTER the run of the show. I didn't see any press about it at the time. I also didn't watch a whole lot of TFOL, either.If Jones wants to serve the Lord (I'm a Christian, so I don't have an issue with that), I am sure that if he is tithing, darned near ANY church would appreciate the thirty to thirty-five thousand he'd be donating.And anyone with a Twitter account (like Jones) that doesn't imagine that something said would not go viral is flat out lying to himself.
David said... I'm not sure I understand the venom here. Jones made an admittedly ungracious and unfortunate remark while talking about his faith. It was posted on a YouTube channel for his ministry, and it blew up in the media.We forget he was 9 when his PARENTS signed him up for this. I applaud his honesty about the show. While it is funny...sometimes...it is filthy. I don't care how much money was thrown my way, my child would not have done this show. His statement today was impressive, quick to clarify, and a mature response to his immature mistake.If we can 'forgive' Charlie and give him 5+ chances, lets give this kid a break.Pam aka sisterzip
If he truly feels that he's gotten rich doing Satan's work, he should donate ALL of his earnings to the church. If he's not willing to do that -- if he keeps the money he earned doing something that he believes is harming mankind -- then that speaks volumes. For me, the question is not whether or not he stays on the show. It is, What will Angus do to repair the damage he believes he's done to the world at large That is the true test of character.But of course he will keep his wealth. I've seen enough (too much) hypocrisy from these fundamentalists in my lifetime. We all know how these things go.
\"Ann Onymouse said...\"There's nothing wrong with being uber-religious\" has got to be the stupidest thing I've heard all week. No, month.\"Amen, sister, amen.What is all this \"Cut him some slack; he's only 19; he's a kid\" crap He's 19, more than old enough to fight and die for his country, or is that the choice of an immature mind also Oh look, his character is a soldier. More than old enough to vote. Do we not-count the votes of 18 to 21 year olds because \"They're just kids\"I gota agree with John Leader Alfenito's assement; this is the work of a man who is not very bright. Apparenly, Angus is much closer in IQ to the character he plays than I'd thought. He wasn't \"acting\" dumb.The \"apology\" was truly hilarious. \"I apologize if my remarks reflect me showing indifference to and disrespect of my colleagues and a lack of appreciation of the extraordinary opportunity of which I have been blessed. I never intended that\" when I said that their (our) work was \"filth\" that rots your brian. I meant that in a nice way.You know what rots your brain Religion. Looks like someone's church remembered where the money they take out of Angus's pockets comes from.\"I'm sorry. I was high on Jesus. Let this be a lesson, kids. Don't make videos or drive while high on Jesus.\" Do they have rehab for those who get high on JesusInteresting Angus T. Jones GIANT Irony: He spent most of his childhood and adolescence around Charlie Sheen trading dirty jokes, yet it turns out that Sheen was NOT the \"Bad influence\" in his life.
Unfortunately, this really seems about a young mind chasing the simple virtues of extremist positions - and that should not be confused with spiritual awakening and benefits of religion and community. It isn't \"about finding religion with Seventh Day Adventists\" because the signs are ominous and confused signals are coming from the real Seventh Day Adventists church itself about it and their new member. A mega-rich 19 year-old suddenly veers off into having \"advisors\" as Christopher Hudson (the homophobic, anti-Obama, conspiracy theorist who interviewed Angus for his Forerunner Chronicles web series) steering his interviews, and about whom the Seventh-Day Adventists say: \"We are unable to offer information because Forerunner Chronicles is not a ministry operated by the Seventh-day Adventist Church and its host is not a pastor of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.\"It's all the signs lining up for a bad ride. And yeah, Angus is on record saying he gets so much \"information\" from the Chronicles site. If he had no idea what to do all that time, making all that money, like giving to charities and expanding his horizons, then really.... I don't know what he had anyway for brains.
I don't care about his beliefs (pretty tired of anti-religious stuff now), but that was a really dumb thing to do. Any organisation that encouraged a member to do that really doesn't care about its people -- and also seems to display a worrying propensity for crazy. Apparently he won't be fired (it would be a PR disaster if he was -- any disclaimers about it not being related to his religious beliefs would be saved to the last paragraph of the news articles, long after everyone had made up their minds) and, maybe I'm naive and idealistic, but I don't think he should be. You don't need a mallet if you can do the same job with your thumb. The first thing I'd do is chat with the guy and see if things could be ironed out through discussion. Of course, if an agreement couldn't be reached (no more videos!), then we'd make it clear we were letting him leave amicably. I think taking the high road is definitely the best thing here: He's young and he seems like a victim of a weird church, or at least his own inexperience. I guess I am naive and idealistic, but I think everyone deserves a second chance. Of course, this whole thing could turn out to be a PR stunt. 781b155fdc